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The Keto Kamp Podcast With Ben Azadi

Apr 23, 2021

Today, I am blessed to have here with me Dr. Rebecca Warren. Her approach to thyroid and hormonal health is simple but powerful: get to the cause, then support the body to heal itself.

The thyroid doesn’t work on its own, so when the thyroid is off, it not only affects the entire endocrine system, but all systems within the body. This is why just getting a thyroid dysfunction diagnosis doesn’t mean you’ll ever get well, and in fact can make you worse over time.

Likewise, hormonal imbalances indicate something is systemically wrong in the body. In Chattanooga and virtually around the world, Dr. Rebecca coaches her clients on optimal thyroid care via customized plans utilizing lab work and testing, supplements, and functional nutrition.

In this episode, Dr. Warren opens the show by talking about her own health journey. At sixteen, Dr. Warren had her gallbladder removed, and at nineteen, she found out about her thyroid cancer. After struggling with depression and weight loss resistance, Dr. Warren found keto, fasting, and other health tools. Dr. Warren gives a massive overview of the thyroid and what you need to know about Reverse T3. Plus, we chat about if you should try keto and fasting with thyroid issues and the danger of staying in ketosis for too long.

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[00:30] About Dr. Warren And Her Passion For The Thyroid

  • At 16, Dr. Warren had severe pain in her chest. At the hospital, they gave her morphine.
  • Sadly, Dr. Warren had developed thousands of stones in her gallbladder. After getting the gallbladder removed, Dr. Warren needed to recover from morphine withdrawals.
  • Even at 16, Dr. Warren wondered why she was born with a gallbladder if she didn’t need it. Just because they cut out the gallbladder, that didn’t mean Dr. Warren was cured.
  • At 19, Dr. Warren found out that she had cancer. However, it was the “good” cancer to have, thyroid cancer.
  • Well, the doctors were ready to have her thyroid cut out, and Dr. Warren had the surgery done.
  • Warren became weight loss resistant, and she started to struggle with depression. When you think about depression, you think about suicide. However, depression can mean waking up every single day with a massive burden.
  • Eventually, Dr. Warren found keto and fasting to change the healing process in her body.

[10:30] An Overview Of The Thyroid + What To Know About Reverse T3

  • The hypothalamus is a thyroid-releasing hormone; it goes from the hypothalamus to the pituitary and the pituitary to the thyroid.
  • When we talk about carbs, fat, and ketosis, it all goes back to the hypothalamus.
  • The hypothalamus is the master control center of all the hormones, not just your thyroid hormones, but all hormones.
  • The Reverse T3 (RT3) Test is one that Dr. Warren recommends. Many doctors have an issue with it. RT3 is an inflammatory marker that gives you a good idea of how your body responds to stressors.
  • We can’t wait around for studies to prove what we know or feel in our body.
  • You have to trust your body because you live in your body.

[18:10] Can You Do Keto And Fasting With A Thyroid Issue?

  • Listen to what your body is telling you to do.
  • Getting in ketosis can decrease free T3 – which isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
  • People think they need carbs for free T3. However, you make more free T3 to deal with inefficiencies when it comes to metabolism.
  • Your blood work might show that your free T3 is low, but your body knows that it doesn’t need it as much.
  • Remember, the hypothalamus will regulate what's going on within our body.
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[26:00] The Benefits To Using Keto For Thyroid Support

  • One benefit of keto is cell receptor sensitivity.
  • The thyroid is a layered thing. When it’s off, it will affect loads of different things. When you utilize keto, it will help the gut microbiome.
  • Inflammation in the gut will make thyroid issues worse. So, keto will change the gut microbiome for the better.
  • Eat good fermented foods for your gut microbiome.
  • T3 goes down with keto, so there is less demand on the thyroid. Now, you can detox the body!

[29:50] The Benefits To Using Fasting For Thyroid Support

  • Fasting is beautiful for coming off high-dose medications.
  • When people start fasting, their cell receptor sensitivity will change. Then, they will need fewer medications.
  • On day three of a block fast, people will get an increased heart rate, and their whole body will change.
  • When you start fasting, you will become more sensitive and need less medicine. Having adverse reactions is a good thing! It means your body is changing, and it’s getting better.
  • Also, fasting can affect antibody levels because of what is happening in the gut. Plus, fasting is great for the immune system.

[35:15] Why It Is Dangerous To Stay In Ketosis Long-Term For Thyroid Function  

  • The hypothalamus will control all of your hormones. Ketosis is a stressor that will heal your body. However, it’s still a stressor.
  • When we stay in sympathetic for too long, we get signals of survival. If we are in ketosis for too long, we will go into survival mode.
  • When we are in survival mode, our thyroid will shut down.
  • Having flex days will tell your body that there is no stressor. Now, your body can utilize your carbs to produce hormones in your thyroid.

[42:50] Finding Doctors + Health Practitioners On Your Healing Journey

  • Find someone who is going to respect you and someone who is going to have a conversation with you.
  • You will want to have a synergistic relationship with your practitioner.
  • Use your health practitioners as a toolbox.
  • Outside of these people, find health coaches!
  • That way, you can look at the body as a whole to heal itself.


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