May 7, 2021
Today, I am blessed to have here with me for a second time, Dr.
Nasha Winters. She has been on a personal journey with cancer for
the last 27 years.
Her quest to save her own life has transformed into a mission to
support others on a similar journey. Dr. Nasha travels the world to
explore integrative cancer clinics, vet cancer protocols for
research projects, speak at conferences, and meet with colleagues
to help them apply metabolic approaches with their patients.
Dr. Nasha offers doctor-to-doctor consultations and intensive
mentorships for clinicians who want to more deeply understand
metabolic and integrative approaches to cancer.
In this episode, Dr. Nasha goes into depth about the processes
happening to your cells and your body during cancer. She advises us
on how to process the loss of someone you love, all the way to
sharing her favorite inflammatory markers. In between, Dr. Nasha
explains how we can expand our lifespan by taking care of our
mitochondria and the importance of fasting and ketosis during
radiation therapy. Dr. Nasha also speaks about different cancer
theories in the medical field and why she finds one more hopeful
than the other.
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[01:45] How To Process The Loss Of Somebody You Love And
Adore
- There are only two promises in this world: being born and
dying.
- Even though we intellectually understand death, it's definitely
still very painful.
- At 19, Dr. Nasha met her own diagnosis.
- It took a long time for Dr. Nasha to really come to terms with
understanding death and dying. However, It's not something we're
taught in our culture. Yet when you work with chronically ill
people with cancer, you're going to see it, and you're going to see
it often.
- Nasha learned to understand that death and dying look exactly
the same. They're just an unbelievable passing through a particular
threshold; they are not as scary and ugly as we've made them out to
be in our world.
- Death is a powerful threshold; it is a very normal process of
life.
[09:40] What We Can Do To Extend Our
Lifespan
- Our fountain of youth resides in the health and wealth of our
mitochondria.
- Nasha explains that, unfortunately, new beings are entering
this planet with their mitochondria already somewhat polluted and
damaged. Then, the longer you are on this planet, and the more you
neglect your health, the more damage you do to your mitochondria as
well.
- These mitochondrial conditions make you age faster and be more
susceptible to chronic illness processes.
- Nasha emphasizes that preventative care is key to heading off
these conditions and extending our lifespan.
- There are many easy ways to access what is actually happening
in your body, and as a culture, we need to start caring about not
just feeling fine but being optimally healthy.
- Whether people like it or not, this "optimal health" is heavily
influenced not only by physical factors, but by our life
experiences, emotional intelligence, resilience to stressors, and
other important mental, emotional and spiritual aspects of our
life.
[21:12] Metabolic vs. Somatic Theories of Cancer
Explained By Dr. Nasha
- Somatic theory is the concept that our DNA accumulates damages
to its structure over time and then sets off a path to a cancering
process. This theory supports the idea that cancer is a “bad luck
game” and you’re just either going to get it or you’re not.
- Nasha does not subscribe to this thought process. It creates
the idea that you are powerless, and powerlessness is an incredible
toxin.
- Metabolic theory instead conceptualizes that we can see where
the cancer cells stem from and that we can make a difference.
- From our thoughts to our food, to the water we drink and the
air we breathe, everything around us affects our mitochondria.
- Our mitochondria are the “genome protectors;” the key to
warding off cancerous cells. So keeping them healthy is
crucial.
- This is where Dr. Nasha sees hope in the vision of cancer, that
we can make a difference.
[28:12] What Is Affecting Cancerous Cell Replication +
What You Can Do About It
- Once an unhealthy cell switches its fuel source to sugar and
starts replicating, it will just keep replicating.
- Our ability to break to kill off those damaged, dysfunctional
or rogue cells is under the complete guidance of our mitochondria.
So if our mitochondria are unhealthy, damaged, or inefficient, they
cannot stop the attacks.
- But if you get your body fat down and build up your muscle, you
actually start to increase your storage and effectiveness, and
efficiency of your mitochondria.
- Nasha has found that she can help patients take the
mitochondria they have and strengthen them through powerful tools
like intermittent fasting, cryotherapy, and more.
- Unfortunately, the pharmaceutical industry can’t get rich off
these tools, so they push it to the back.
- All while we keep trying to find the pharmaceutical answer to
the ancient wisdom that's been available to us all along.
[37:47] The Importance of Metabolic
Flexibility
- Nasha has found that the vast majority of her patients are not
very metabolically flexible.
- Most people in their normal lives tend to eat something every 2
to 3 hours and also like to indulge in a little snack or sweet
treat between dinner and bed.
- However, learning to fast can be extremely important.
- In a 1909 study, it was found that simply fasting cytotoxically
reduced the size of a tumor.
- So, if you take fasting and pair it with chemo, you get a
synergy, like a double whammy. All while protecting those healthy
mitochondria from the damaging effects of that chemo or that
radiation.
- Yet, most oncologists still aren't full-heartedly supporting
their patients fasting during chemo.
[46:23] How Exogenous Ketones Help During
Radiation
- Nasha emphasizes that just taking exogenous ketones will never
be as good as doing ketogenesis the old fashion way.
- However, exogenous ketones can help to give a running start to
people who are new to low carb or need to get primed for a
particular chemotherapy.
- They also help reduce the withdrawal from carbs that most
patients feel at first, giving your psychology time to catch up
with your physiology.
- Exogenous ketones can even pack an extra punch for folks who
are already fat-adapted during radiation to protect the healthy
tissues.
- This is also important for patients that have brain tumors, for
instance, because the steroids they might be taking make it almost
impossible to get into therapeutic ketosis.
- Another great way to get into ketosis is a three-day water
fast. Those doing this around their chemo find exogenous ketones
keep them feeling pretty good.
[50:18] What Level of Ketones Are Optimal For Radiation
+ Therapeutic Ketosis
- Ideally, Dr. Nasha wants them in therapeutic ketosis, which is
above three on the Keto-Mojo.
- For people to get into a level of three and higher, you have to
be very metabolically flexible and/or taking exogenous
ketones.
- What gets someone to a certain level of ketones is unique to
the person.
- Not only are bodies unique on their own, but all the stress and
different medications can make it even harder to get into ketosis
during cancer treatment.
- The point being, don't beat yourself up if it is harder for you
to get into ketosis than someone else.
[53:40] Dr. Nasha’s Favorite Inflammatory
Markers
- Nasha’s trifecta: C Reactive Protein (CRP), Sedimentation Rate
(ESR), and Lactate Dehydrogenase (LDH)
- CRP is prognostic for many things. If you have an elevated CRP
at the time of your breast cancer diagnosis or colorectal cancer
diagnosis, you have a poor prognosis.
- Sedimentation rate tells you how fast your blood cells fall out
of plasma.
- If the cells fall out fast, that is good; you want flow in your
blood. If they fall out slow, your blood is more gelatinous and
also means you have more inflammation in your tissues.
- LDH is the most important test for your metabolic health. If
your LDH is high, your mitochondria are off.
- When using this trifecta as a collective, they are more
sensitive and specific than any other cancer marker Dr. Nasha has
seen.
AND MUCH MORE!
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