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The Keto Kamp Podcast With Ben Azadi

Jul 22, 2019

Today, I am joined by one of the most brilliant Chiropractors, Functional Fitness expert, and Nutritionist, specializing in Advanced Metabolic Nutrition, Dr. Don Clum. Unlike what’s known in the medical world, his approach in Diabetic Care and other metabolic syndromes such as obesity has shown remarkable results.

In this episode, Dr. Clum talks about his experience in the practice of Diabetic Care and Fasting, giving focus on the important role of insulin and other hormones in our body. We’ve also talked about the fasting process and how our metabolic organs play vital roles in keeping our body healthy. He shares a few powerful messages. One of which is that “The goal of fasting is not to just get through it, but to actually have the ability to do it”.

I hope you enjoy this episode as much as I do!







During our discussion, you’ll discover:

[2:24] Dr. Clum’s interesting childhood

  • He grew up in a family of chiropractors
  • As a teenager, he really did not want to be one until he was bribed by his father to attend a seminar and eventually enjoyed a studio night lead by a group of chiropractor students.
    • He then went to Atlanta Georgia to take a Bachelor’s degree in Nutrition and LifeWest in California to take his Chiropractic degree.
  • He eventually influenced his daughter to be a chiropractor too by bringing her in chiropractic seminars.
  • Growing up, he and his siblings were raised in a healthy environment.
    • They grew up attending college seminars as family vacations and did not use medications often.


[7:12] Dr. Clum’s life as a chiropractor in Costa Rica

  • He gives credit to Shawn Dill who authored the law that regulates the practice of chiropractic in Costa Rica.
  • He lived eight years in Costa Rica working with universities and olympic athletes mostly.


[10:59] Dr. Clum’s story of getting into his passion for Diabetes

  • It started back when he was diagnosed with skin cancer back in Costa Rica.
    • With his background in nutrition, he studied more about diet and lifestyle.
    • He was able to heal himself with a change of diet and lifestyle.
  • After 10 years, realizing the problem in obesity and diabetes, he opened a Wellness Center in Spain providing different programs such as weight loss, fast fitness, and metabolic syndrome programs.

[14:54] Introducing his model in the medical world

  • Dr. Warren White, an owner of a Population Health Company, partnered with him to provide his services in a larger scope of population.
    • He had to study and research diabetes holistically to back up his own diabetes prevention program as it completely opposed the ADA Diabetes Guidelines.
    • He fought for the recognition that the insulin-based model is the more effective approach in diabetes.


[20:31] ADA’s Diabetes Prevention Program vs. Dr. Clum’s Insulin-based Model

  • ADA’s is a traditional model and focuses on regulating blood sugar.
    • It is based on low fat, low calorie, small frequent meals and snacks, increasing physical activity and medication.
    • A study showed that it does not prevent diabetes, but only postpones it.
  • Dr. Clum’s program focuses on controlling the root cause of diabetes, the insulin.
    • Insulin sensitivity decreases symptoms of Type II Diabetes.
    • It also promotes weight loss – visceral and non-visceral, which is vital in treating diabetes.


[26:39] Diabetes is not irreversible, degenerative disease.

  • Diabetes is seen in the medical world as irreversible degenerative disease and requires life-long management of blood sugar.
    • The traditional approach treats the symptoms, but if you shift in the insulin-based model, the opportunity to reverse diabetes is possible.


[28:12] The major role of hormone Insulin in Weight loss and Diabetes

  • According to Dr. Clum, “Weight loss in itself is pointless.”
    • In order to treat Type II diabetes, the diabetic patient needs to lose only 1 gram of fat out of the pancreas.
    • It resets the metabolic mechanism of the pancreas.
  • It’s not the caloric intake; it’s the insulin that plays in weight management
    • Since 60’s and 70’s, there are a lot of studies about weight management that revolves in the law of thermodynamics or “calories in = calories out”. However, they are not effective for everyone. It is random and never predictable.
  • Insulin-based program in treating diabetes is more complex than calories in = calories out 
    • Patients who already tried the traditional way of managing diabetes were advised to eat more rather than eating less to get their metabolism to a certain point before the fasting.


[36:30] The concept of fed and lean state

  • In a constant fed state, the insulin is up all the time.
    • Eating is any time our body consumes calories.
    • An average American is in a constant fed state, eating about 17-23 times a day.
  • When you fast, your body becomes in a lean state.
    • When you fast, your body starts to repair damaged cells in your body.
    • Damaged cells are getting rid of or reused as energy.


[41:15] Dr. Clum’s 30-day of fasting

  • His fasting started from 3 days and gradually progressed into 30 days.
    • He did not experience hunger and cravings.
    • He experienced fat and muscle loss, losing about 20 pounds.


[44:30] Negative connotations in fasting – muscle wasting and not getting through it

  • There’s no need to be afraid of muscle wasting as muscle comes back and recovers, as seen in athletes as well.
  • The goal of fasting is not to just get through it, but to have the ability to do it.
  • If you train and prepare physically and mentally, you can do it.


[47:48] How much of an impact has eating high healthy fat, low carb diet been for his patients, especially diabetic patients?

  • Keto diet is commonly used to control snacking.
  • He has seen keto diet to be effective in losing 60 pounds in 8 weeks.
  • Healthy liver and pancreas is vital in order to get the health benefits of the keto diet.


[51:48] Skin as a metabolic organ

  • The skin makes 50% of men’s testosterone.
  • In women, it makes up 75% of their estrogen and in menopause, it makes 100%
  • Your skin has a huge role in cancer and insulin resistance.


[53:15] Vitamin D can be an indicator in detecting insulin resistance.

  • Vitamin D and Insulin resistance has an inverse relationship. 
    • When your Vitamin D is low, you are insulin resistant.


[55:24] Dr. Clum’s current projects




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